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Real knife attacks caught on video
 
Alex Millauer
Posted: 03 June 2009 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Here are some videos of knife attacks I thought were interesting (some are graphic):

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/266722…_knife_attack/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suNKWwPnkJ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjKU0p9JZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlb6qGyblR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9q1IElo8v4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOUn5qI6Ic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KROpdUkrM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=778010752e

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bfb9ec743

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=17f_1173654313

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0c5_1172774940

http://www.filecabi.net/video/vkmanstabswoman.html


I found this on another site, but I thought it might be interesting to discuss here.  Looks like in many of these cases, the stabs are very fast, sometimes they almost look more like little pokes (because obviously it doesn’t take a lot of force to plunge a knife into someone’s body).

The one inside the jewelry store was interesting, the employees keep hitting the attacker with chairs and metal poles, but he doesn’t even seem fazed.

Then there is one where police officers confront a guy with a knife, but several of them get stabbed before the suspect is finally shot.  Shows that a gun isn’t always a sure weapon against a gun.

For the black and white one of the assassination, look at the very end, there it’s shown in slow-motion.

The one about the guy mounted on the girl is pretty gruesome (but she survived).  It’s interesting to note how so many bystanders didn’t know what to do and only made half-hearted attempts at getting the guy off her.  She was in a terrible position, but had she known the trap and roll escape, at least maybe there had been a chance she would have been able to get out, although it would have been very tough.

There are also a few random attacks.  Shows anything can happen, even if you are not out looking for trouble at all, or present any danger to the attacker.  Some guys just don’t care.

Any other comments or does anyone else have videos to post and discuss?

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 03 June 2009 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Here’s another one, taken onboard a train:

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Punalada/mortal/metro/Madrid/elpepunac/20090510elpepinac_9/Tes

There’s an article about the incident, but its in Spanish.  If you click on the first video, you can just see the stabbing.  Note that the attacker already has the knife in his hand.  The second video is longer, showing what happened before and after the attack.

The assailant is a neo nazi, who wears a shirt identifying him as such.  The guys who enter the train are people from an anti-nazi group.  They were on their way to some kind of anti-nazi demonstration and the attacker was going to a counter-demonstration.  The victim sees the attacker’s shirt and confronts him and is then stabbed.  Afterwards, the attacker is still on the train and others are gathered outside, then try to get on the train and catch him, but he stabs at anyone getting close (he even stabs a second guy, who survived.  The first victim died soon after the attack from a stab to the heart).  At some point, someone throws a fire extinguisher into the train, which goes off, allowing the attacker to flee, but he is apprehended later and is now in prison.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 03 June 2009 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Here’s an article in English about the incident:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7090656.stm

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John Whitman
Posted: 07 June 2009 08:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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These are good posts, Alex.  I’d seen several of them before.  In our training, I’ve been including many more drills where the attacker tries to grab or hold off the defender with the free arm during knife and stick attacks. It makes the defenses much more difficult, and therefore much more realistic!

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 13 June 2009 06:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Back from Vegas, back to knife attacks!!

Yes, I find it very interesting to have several videos all in one place, so one can get some idea of what a real attack might look like.  If you or anyone else knows of any others, please post them here.  I know there’s the one of the little guy stabbing the big guy in a bar, but that one isn’t on the internet, I think.  I also remember one inside a stairwell, where the victim gets a punch in before he is then stabbed and dies.  I’ll see if I can find it.

In that last situation, where the attacker is mounted on the girl, if you had been one of the bystanders, what kind of third party defense would you have done in that case?  Would you have punched or kicked the guy in the head (but without controlling the knife)?  Or would you have tried to give a quick punch, then grab the knifehand in a cavalier?  Would a cavalier be likely to get the attacker off the victim from that position?  Or would you have grabbed the hand in a cavalier, then try to stab the attacker with his own knife?  Or pull on his arm in an effort to drag him off the victim, then continue the fight with kicks and stomps to his head?

This situation seems a lot trickier than a third party defense from a standing position, because, standing up, you could position yourself more easily between the attacker and the victim and the victim might be able to make some distance.  In the case shown here, unless you drag him off (which the bystanders do in the end, but without control of the knife), the assailant might be able to continue the attack.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 13 June 2009 06:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Just watched it again.  They grab the hood of his sweatshirt and use that to pull him off in the end and that - or maybe pulling on the head - might have been the best way to get him off her.  Once he was away from the victim and on the ground, they were able to control him (or they could have used more kicks and stomps to subdue him further, if that had been necessary).  Looks like a cavalier would have been difficult to do from that position, because his arm was so low.  His head was also down, so not sure what kind of effect a punch would have had on him.  Dragging him off and then subduing/fighting him might have been the best option.  If only they had done it right away.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 13 June 2009 09:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Here is another one, taken inside a stairwell (now you know why I always want to train there!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SUWwjCDXU

Some people are running away from the assailant, into a building, but later some of them turn back.  One punches the guy with the knife twice before he is stabbed and dies.  The stabbing can be seen at around 0:40 seconds of the video.  The victim never controls the knife and since the punches don’t hurt the attacker enough, he is able to just turn and stab him.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 19 June 2009 06:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Here’s one where the attacker is grabbing and stabbing, with a knife about the size of a machete:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2kTD5Jirc

It’s shot by a surveillance camera from a distance, so you may need to watch it a few times to see all of it.  The attacker cuts the first victim and stabs the second, then he and his buddies keep stomping the second victim while he is lying on the ground.  The knife here is huge and I wonder how well one would have been able to block it using a 360 defense, with the attacker grabbing.  The first victim is pushed off balance right before being cut, which also would have made a defense harder.

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Posted: 26 June 2009 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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One thing that amazes me is that in most of those knife attack videos the attacker doesn’t stop for nothing. When I teach students i focus so much on becoming the predator not the victim. to many people assume that the attacker will just stop. these videos prove otherwise.

I have trained in Kali as well as Krav Maga and both systems offer good defense. I do however believe that Krav Maga defense are more realistic. In a private with John Whitman I remember discussing that in most scenarios, that getting the knife out of the attackers hand would likely cut you. During that lesson we focused on committing 100 percent to our attack not the disarm. my theory is that the knife itself isn’t the threat. it is the person with the knife. stop him and the knife will never jump off of the ground and stab you by itself.


great video examples. It really opens your eyes on how dangerous a mad man can be.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 30 June 2009 06:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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We do have great knife takeaway techniques in Krav Maga, but lately I’ve also been thinking about concentrating primarily on the first block and counter, making sure that both are strong, and only then looking for the takeaway if it happens to be there.  If you think of doing the entire technique with the takeaway, I find it sometimes happens that your initial counter and block (or redirection for straight stab) are not as strong, because there is a tendency to worry about what comes next, rather than putting everything into that initial part of the defense.  That could be a problem, because everything depends on that first counter.  If you fail to hurt the attacker, he can keep on coming and control will be hard if not impossible.
As one can see in the videos, it doesn’t take much force for a knife to penetrate deeply into the human body and just one stab can be deadly if it hits a major organ.  So, in many cases, making distance after the first counter might be a safer bet than trying to control the attacker’s arm.  It just all depends on the situation as well as the attacker’s reaction to the counter and it’s important to learn to recognize quickly how to adjust to it.  That’s why I like training with the attacker going for multiple stabs sometimes (as he would in real life), or reacting differently each time the defense is made, so one doesn’t get used to doing one motion all of the time and gets lost when something out of the ordinary should occur.  I also like training for the worst case scenario so that, if it happens, one is prepared and if it doesn’t, the situation one has to deal with instead should seem easy in comparison.

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 17 October 2009 06:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Here is another video that shows a compilation of different knife attacks (some are new) and tries to dispel common myths about such attacks.  There are also some drawings of ancient knife defense methods at the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNOP3X9OyzM

And three more videos of attacks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdMw4UUwJA&feature=related  (attack in Turkey, defender spins knife man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKx8zM_8vH8&feature=related  (guy falls to ground in fight, gets up holding knife in his left, then other guy blocks and defends and first guy loses knife, third guy picks it up and stabs him, fight starts at 0:36)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Tf8nHlEVY&feature=related  (woman in china, ambushed from behind, attack starts at 0:33)

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Alex Millauer
Posted: 09 April 2010 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Here’s another knife attack video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbk8QbL_h8

The attacker keeps the knife hidden underneath some type of shirt that he is carrying, goes into a building (courthouse), then starts stabbing two guards.  He stabs with his right, while grabbing the victims with his outstretched left arm (which would make it harder to defend).

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Posted: 26 May 2010 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Posted: 19 August 2010 01:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Hay i am new one and find this forum topic up to the mark. I must say Alex Millauer that all the videos are smashing but the second last one is matchless. Carry on!

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Hi i am new here and looking for this kind of stuff . i found this site on google and i appreciate the work done by you and enjoy all the videos really awesome.

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